“As artists and creatives we put our vision first, the artistry up here and then the logistics, the resources you need, the people, the funding… well it’s there, but it’s this kind of side platter.” Kerry Ann Lee We talk about things artists often don’t talk about: getting paid – why is it so murky what venues and galleries have to offer? How do you navigate sharing your ideas never sure if there’s moolah at the end of it? How do you plan so you don’t have lulls in activity? And what should be in that funding application This is a podcast discussion dedicated to helping artists do better in the business of being an independent artist, with two artists of experience working for themselves: visual artist and designer Kerry Ann Lee and dance choreographer and producer Sacha Copland.? We hope you find this discussion as valuable as we did. In the chair is Mark Amery, from Letting Space and its Urban Dream Brokerage service. The hosts are Toi Poneke, and in the background you will hear the sounds of Philip Glass from Copland’s Tread Softly installation in the Toi Poneke Gallery in which a live dancer plays in autumn leaves amongst an exhibition of photographs of leaves by Tom Hoyle These are two artists from different disciplines both interested in working in a variety of different ways with the public and communities. Kerry Ann Lee is a celebrated visual artist, designer and educator who uses hand-made processes and socially-engaged projects to explore hybrid identities and histories of migration. She creates installation, publication and image-based work and has a long practice in independent artists’ publishing. Sacha Copland is a dancer, choreographer and the artistic director of Java Dance Theatre working around New Zealand and internationally who believes in the power of dance to build empathy and dissolve the distance between people by creating dance that “clambers into your senses and gets underneath your fingernails.” This is part of a monthly discussion and podcast series aimed at sharing and networking across the arts, with a mission to empower and resource artists to create work outside conventional venues as part of wellington city.

We talk about things artists often don’t talk about: getting paid – why is it so murky what venues and galleries have to offer? How do you navigate sharing your ideas never sure if there’s moolah at the end of it? How do you plan so you don’t have lulls in activity? And what should be in that funding application

This is a podcast discussion dedicated to helping artists do better in the business of being an independent artist, with two artists of experience working for themselves: visual artist and designer Kerry Ann Lee and dance choreographer and producer Sacha Copland.? We hope you find this discussion as valuable as we did.

In the chair is Mark Amery, from Letting Space and its Urban Dream Brokerage service. The hosts are Toi Poneke, and in the background you will hear the sounds of Philip Glass from Copland’s Tread Softly installation in the Toi Poneke Gallery in which a live dancer plays in autumn leaves amongst an exhibition of photographs of leaves by Tom Hoyle

These are two artists from different disciplines both interested in working in a variety of different ways with the public and communities. Kerry Ann Lee is a celebrated visual artist, designer and educator who uses hand-made processes and socially-engaged projects to explore hybrid identities and histories of migration. She creates installation, publication and image-based work and has a long practice in independent artists’ publishing. Sacha Copland is a dancer, choreographer and the artistic director of Java Dance Theatre working around New Zealand and internationally who believes in the power of dance to build empathy and dissolve the distance between people by creating dance that “clambers into your senses and gets underneath your fingernails.”

This is part of a monthly discussion and podcast series aimed at sharing and networking across the arts, with a mission to empower and resource artists to create work outside conventional venues as part of wellington city.

Our next discussion at Toi Poneke is May 8, 12.30-2pm, ‘On creating creative capital’ with mayor Justin Lester. A discussion with our mayor who holds the arts and culture portfolio on what is needed to take our creative scene to the next level.